Friday, February 22, 2008 [8:12] shady: ping [8:13] bec: pong [8:13] shady: lesson 1 in Dragonwrangling this shit is like pulling teeth you saw the documentation freakout this week? [8:13] bec: yeah [8:13] shady: gotta be interview style [8:14] bec: right. super specific and repeat the question if it doesn't get answered :) [8:14] shady: feel free to jump in and tease/provoke valuable nuggets of info out of him i'm trying to establish an agenda for "Location 101" for the presentation [8:14] bec: ahh [8:15] shady: we'll save this transcript and you and i can make sensible "1, 2, 3" slides from this [8:15] bec: cool. [8:56] shady: ZOMG this is so frustrating this is helping me seeing it all written out do you know all this stuff already? [8:57] bec: I hadn't specifically looked at that file, or thought about extending stuff to new countries but I know the other stuff mostly [8:57] shady: gotcha ok [8:58] bec: I was looking at the location issue queue, and it's scary. [8:58] shady: ha [8:58] bec: do not want. [8:58] shady: well we need you to become an expert on this stuff you down for trying? [8:58] bec: yeah :) I just meant that there are a lot of issues that I'm glad I'm not personally accountable for. though bdragon's updates sound like they should hit most of the stuff in the queue. or, all of the stuff in the queue. [8:59] shady: well i think your best help is that next week, start documenting the shit out of all this to the point of creating visual depictions or at least flowcharts or boxes or something to make it easier to see at a glance how all this stuff fits togetehr just rough ones - you can even sketch them on paper - Nick can pretty them up [9:00] bec: oh, fun (: [9:00] shady: sarcastic? [9:00] bec: (do I own paper?) no, serious I like doing how-tos, as long as I can get input partway through. [9:03] shady: well i don't know if this is as much HOWTO yet i'm thinking of "background graphics you and i can gesture to while we describe what the fuck location.module does during our presentation" [9:04] bec: eh, didn't specifically mean 'howto' but good to have that clarification. [9:06] shady: but that info SHOULD also be pdf'ed, hosted on our site, and linked to on the d.o module page :) [9:06] bec: oks. 10:00 You have disconnected 10:00 You have connected [10:11] shady: ZOMG this stuff is all so complicated i HATE computers and applications and stuff [10:12] bec: heh I was just saying to ben: "man I love my job" [10:13] shady: lol "what'd you do Friday night, Becca?" Ê"Discussion of multiple GIS application stacks in our CMS of choice, it was AWESOME!!!!11!" [10:14] bec: yeah, seriously. also: non-gmaps maps are much more professional looking/feeling when building a specific, larger-scale app. not our purposes, but openlayers would be something to focus on if we were getting fancy with a yearlong project or something. [10:18] shady: we want to go to OpenLayers for a few reasons: 1) so we don't look like Gmap-fanboi losers 2) so we can charge for hosted service without a $10,000 Google Maps for Enterprise annual service key 3) The professional looking/feeling shit you mentioned 4) (i guess) establish us as GIS4OSS powerhouse [10:19] bec: and apparently, some real GIS capabilities, yes. and, hosted service is in our idea-bank? also: I hate it when people say "just trust me"! not that bdragon's particular instance was bothering me. just noticed. [10:22] shady: yes, hosted service is an option down the road i agree re: trust [10:48] shady: we need to develop - for the presentation - a "functional map" sort of overlaid over a "module map" [10:49] bec: so where location/gmap stands, and where geo stands to cover in the future? [10:49] shady: yeah 11:16 You have disconnected